Comments on: Who would listen?

By: Kim Caise

Kim Caise — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:20:42 +0000

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and this video with us. I like to think that I am a nonjudgmental person but I don’t know if I would have stopped to listen. It is hard to guage how I would truly have reacted since classical music is not one that I enjoy listening to but I hope I would have stopped and connected with the musician. When I played the video I also listened carefully to the music and was truly moved like never before although it was such a brief moment. I was doing other things but drawn back to the music so this musician touched my life via a virtual performance. We get busy and don’t stop to recognize the beauty and efforts of our students in the midst of testing, conferences, day to day tasks, discipline, etc. Students learn and perform at a higher level when a positive connection is made with their teacher yet it is up to us to recognize and draw upon the beauty of the teacher/student rapport and interactions.

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Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:16:00 +0000

[...] recommend you all having a read of Silvia Tolisano’s recent post, ‘Who would listen’. She talks a bit about the types of things [...]

By: diane

diane — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:09:13 +0000

I keep education “leaders” in my Google Reader, but am more likely to leave comments where the blogger extends the discussion, no matter how well-known/unknown they are.

My Twitter network ONLY contains people who will follow me back – I maintain a 1:1 ratio there.

By: Langwitches

Langwitches — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:58:54 +0000

@Nadine
I agree with you, that sometimes the post from the people in the trenches are more valuable and “in time” for us who are in the classroom than the post of “gurus” that are dedicated in presenting the theory at conferences around the world.
I love to read and benefit tremendously from the day to day experiences so many wonderful teacher/bloggers share so willingly with the rest of the world.

@Ken
The analogy to your experience in an art gallery is very fitting. Some people only will get interested in a certain piece AFTER they become aware of the artist OR how much it is worth. I can see the parallels.

@Claudia
My f2f conversation with you was definitely an inspiration for this blog post. That is what I love about “TALKING” with someone. A conversation will twist and turn your thoughts in ways and directions that you would never have ended up in on your own. Thank you for taking me on a ride.

@Clay
I agree with you that it seems that popularity breeds popularity. We still should not forget that CONTENT should always be in the center of anything. We need to ask ourselves, if we are attracted to the “packaging” or who we will see and who will see us? I am not saying that you should not go to the crowded concert halls, but to be critical if it is really quality you are reading or listening to. Would you stop and listen to the same in the subway?

@Scott
I enjoy reading Vicki, aka coolcatteacher, tremendously, because she has a gift for writing and expressing what I was not able to put into worlds. I know, I would be listening to and reading her content no matter in which way it came packaged.

@Cathy
While I agree with that there is so much content out there that readers can be very picky who and what to spend their time on, my thoughts turn to the reasons why so many of them choose to be or are drawn to the ones that come in the “right”package with the right label attached. Is it like Ken Allan mentions above?:

For me it comes down to ‘values’. Fashion, personality, art are other examples where human values can give rise to similar conundrums over preference.

@Diane
Yes, that is exactly the point. It is all about connecting, whether that being to music, art, an idea or writing.
My question continues to be though if you or others would “connect” and react the same way to someone’s content if it were not be coming from “a name” or in “a place” that is not the current “tone setter” of in an area, profession or industry.

Are we as humans just predetermined to be attracted to the right “package deal”, the opinions of others and the majority current that dictates what is “in” at the moment?

Are we paying more attention to the brand name, the presentation, the ones that hang around the same places and the need to catch some of the spot light than the actual content? Take away all of the above and would the same content generate the same interest, reflection, and ultimately change in others?

All of this has nothing to do with the people presenting and producing the content> I am just wondering how important the “extra” things that surround the content really are for the rest of us?
Content versus Packaging maybe?

By: diane

diane — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:41:29 +0000

Sylvia,

I skim hundreds of blog postings a week (day?) and am impatient with those who don’t provide insight, entertain, or stimulate discussion.

It’s all about connecting for me, and I prefer dialog to soliloquy.

I visit some of the “famous” bloggers, but I don’t stick around long where I’m not valued or at least acknowledged.

diane

By: Cathy Nelson

Cathy Nelson — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:27:22 +0000

Sylvia–while I won’t say I don’t read them, I can say I don’t read all the ones you’ve listed. I dropped one b/c this person is seemingly talking to self, and never seems to acknowledge comments form readers. All the others do get into the conversations that take place on their blogs. I would drop them if they did not. I may begin reading “popular” bloggers, but if I comment and don’t see interaction with them in their blog or other tools (twitter, ustream, f2f, etc.) I lose interst and drop them. I’ve also dropped some who either knowingly or unknowingly hurt me with words. They’ll never know for sure, but I don’t have to tolerate it in my reader or other networking tools I use. I select people to read or interact on based on friends recommendations or topics that strike my fancy. But one I sbscribe to them using the various tools, it is up to them to hold my attention. I don’t have time to waste on those who seem to be in it for themselves, are in it to entertain only a select few, or are bent on driving readers away in one way or another. This was indeed a great post that was timely and thought provoking. I’m going to share it with some friends.

By: Scott

Scott — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:44:29 +0000

Interesting post.

I started reading and enjoying the blog by Vicki Davis before I knew she was a ‘famous’ blogger. I read her work because I thought it was good. I still do.

I try to read all blogs with an open mind. I think the majority of people try to do the same.

Scott

By: Clay Burell

Clay Burell — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:46:01 +0000

Really interesting question. Like Nadine, I tend to comment more on the less crowded subway lines, but I get your drift.

I don’t know if it’s true, but I heard Stevie Wonder released a song as “Evits Rednow” or something back in the ’60s or ’70s to see if anyone would recognize him.

For some reason, I believe if a person consistently writes, over a long period of time, items of quality, s/he will gain recognition.

Shirky writes a section in _Here Comes Everybody_ about the “problem of fame,” though, that faces even the social media world. Popularity breeds more popularity, making breaking through the ceiling increasingly difficult as the ecology in any niche becomes more dense.

Nice post, Silvia.

By: Claudia Ceraso

Claudia Ceraso — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:39:15 +0000

Silvia
What an interesting spin off our conversation last Saturday. I think I can recall something I said about Creative Commons that might have inspired this. The next thing we mentioned was the topics we seldom talk about in blogs. But you have found the most elegant way of putting it.
Brilliant
Pleasure meeting you and look forward to a next time.
fceblog

By: Ken Allan

Ken Allan — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:33:33 +0000

Tēnā koe Silvia

This is an interesting concept. For me it comes down to ‘values’. Fashion, personality, art are other examples where human values can give rise to similar conundrums over preference.

It is a very human thing to have a preference for something that can be identified as being accepted by others. Michele Martin spoke of homophily “the tendency for we humans to connect to and bond with people who share common backgrounds, interests and values.”

This phenomenon is also exhibited when a person has a standing or following and use or abuse the leverage they have in just attending the right meeting or saying the words at the right occasion that are persuasive only because they said them.

I visit art galleries from time to time because I enjoy art. I’m often astonished when, having walked the gallery making mental notes of my preferences I peep at the calalogue and view the prices that accompany the works. My preferences aren’t always among what are obviously the sought after pieces.

Often I will review the pieces carrying the high price tags only to find that I still prefer the ones I first selected. My friends and advisors who know more of art will say to me, “Yes but look who the artist is. That’s why it carries the price tag”.

Humans exhibit homophily in many ways.

Ka kite